Post by rick for rita on Jan 23, 2007 8:42:28 GMT -5
Thomas F. Rice has flown below the radar for 75 years. Gardner makes a passing mention on page 198 but leaves more out than what is included?
The best source for Rice is Hysteria by Dutch/ pages 108-109 where he is Mr. X. :Rice is an attorney and naval intellegence and
former DA in New York. He is also a bootlegger tracker.
Rice has a first hand encounter with Gaston Means, or one of his compatriouts, in late Feb 1932 in Imperial Hotel in NYC. He writes CAL a letter immediately following the kidnap but CAL buries the letter for 4 years. The issue resurfaces in December 1935 in American Astrology and CAL immediately leaves the USA for England until 1939...so go figure that Rice is a big threat to the hoax.
Essentially, Rice tells that Gaston Means knows about the LKC before it happens! Rice goes on to expand his questions to include why would a Union carpenter build a rickety unsafe ladder and why was the baby discovered on Mt.Rose Road 4 and 1/2 inches too tall? Gaston Means, Hoffman, Parker, Wright say its a planted baby and Charlie is somewhere else?
Michael Michael posts that Breckenridge tried to have Rice committed as insane. I suppose this confirms his Truth?
Governor Hoffman makes the claim on page 108 of Hysteria by Andrew Dutch that the primary threat to CAL and Condons fairy tale is a Mr. Thomas F. Rice of New York. Rice is a former G-man, county detective in NYC, naval intellegence chief and former DA. Apparently, Thomas F. Rice wrote a letter/affidavit to Cal in August 1934 and again on September 13th 1935? The charges that Rice makes are as follows:
1. Gaston B. Means and Mr. Palmer Canfield met in the Imperial Hotel for 40 min on Feb 24th 1932 and discussed the kidnap at that time.
2. BRH is not the mastermind of the LKC.
3. Canfield convinced Rice to tell James Roosevelt the whole story--likely a relative of FDR.
4. Palmer Canfield was found dead, under suspicious circumstances, in March 1934.
5. The tactics of the New Deal Administration is to cover up the facts and the methods used to intimidate him?
6. On December 15th 1934 Rice told Edward J. Reilly the story as well. Reilly replied that no relative of FDR is involved?
Good find Rita/ it would build our conficence in research if any single persons name was spelled the same twice? Anyhoo, this summary of Rice's legal defense theories for BRH are on a totally different planet from his letter to CAl on Friday Sept 13th 1935? In this letter Rice becomes a first class eyewitness involving Gaston Bud Means and a Mr. Trop of 18 Boyleston Street in Boston MA? Questions:
1. Is James Roosevelt FDRs brother or another relative?
2. Who is Palmer Canfield who dies in March 1934?
3. Why is JEHoover so constantly interested in the LKC? Is Hoover involved in the Washington DC coverup?
4. Is the Imperial Hotel in Boston Mass?
We need to get one of our super-searchers to find Rice's original letter and the editorial supporting Hoffman in the December 17, 1935 issue of American Astrolgy.
Many doors start to open when you look at Means checkered past. He worked for the US Gov and Burns Detective agency in NYC, claimed to be a German Spy in WWI and knows Dr. JJ Nosovitsky? During his trial Means said that someone at the Morrow household in Englewood paid him to kidnap Charlie Jr. and also that the body on Mt Rose Hill was not Charles Augustus Lindbergh Jr? Since it is likely that he shot his ghost writer on the book about President Harding it wouldnt have been beyond GBMeans to shoot the baby on Mt Rose Road. If in fact there is an evil genius in the LKC--Means qualifies for certain.
Although most think CAL and Scwartzkopf are in charge of all the bungled leads from HQ at Highfields, Noel Bern puts forth one addtional Colonel--Colonel Wild Bill Donovan from Wash DC? Bern only quesses that Donovan, later to run for Governor of New York and run the fledgiling OSS in WWII, was actually present at Highfields on Saturday Feb 27 1932? Donovans #1 Asst. is Atty. Robert Thayer who answers the phone and puts forward the likes of mobster, con-man Mickey Rosner to search for Charlie? Later, Rosner takes the ransom note to NYC to show around to even more crooks like Madden, Bitz and Spitale. Is this any way to run a kidnap ransom case IF IN POINT OF FACT you actually want the kid returned "safe and sound"...I dont think so? No way in Hell? So either:
1. There is no kidnap, but only phishing for some kidnappers or extortionists in the Bronx using Patriot Condon?
OR
2. You dont want Charlie Jr. back but want him to get shot in the head?
The best source for Rice is Hysteria by Dutch/ pages 108-109 where he is Mr. X. :Rice is an attorney and naval intellegence and
former DA in New York. He is also a bootlegger tracker.
Rice has a first hand encounter with Gaston Means, or one of his compatriouts, in late Feb 1932 in Imperial Hotel in NYC. He writes CAL a letter immediately following the kidnap but CAL buries the letter for 4 years. The issue resurfaces in December 1935 in American Astrology and CAL immediately leaves the USA for England until 1939...so go figure that Rice is a big threat to the hoax.
Essentially, Rice tells that Gaston Means knows about the LKC before it happens! Rice goes on to expand his questions to include why would a Union carpenter build a rickety unsafe ladder and why was the baby discovered on Mt.Rose Road 4 and 1/2 inches too tall? Gaston Means, Hoffman, Parker, Wright say its a planted baby and Charlie is somewhere else?
Michael Michael posts that Breckenridge tried to have Rice committed as insane. I suppose this confirms his Truth?
Governor Hoffman makes the claim on page 108 of Hysteria by Andrew Dutch that the primary threat to CAL and Condons fairy tale is a Mr. Thomas F. Rice of New York. Rice is a former G-man, county detective in NYC, naval intellegence chief and former DA. Apparently, Thomas F. Rice wrote a letter/affidavit to Cal in August 1934 and again on September 13th 1935? The charges that Rice makes are as follows:
1. Gaston B. Means and Mr. Palmer Canfield met in the Imperial Hotel for 40 min on Feb 24th 1932 and discussed the kidnap at that time.
2. BRH is not the mastermind of the LKC.
3. Canfield convinced Rice to tell James Roosevelt the whole story--likely a relative of FDR.
4. Palmer Canfield was found dead, under suspicious circumstances, in March 1934.
5. The tactics of the New Deal Administration is to cover up the facts and the methods used to intimidate him?
6. On December 15th 1934 Rice told Edward J. Reilly the story as well. Reilly replied that no relative of FDR is involved?
Good find Rita/ it would build our conficence in research if any single persons name was spelled the same twice? Anyhoo, this summary of Rice's legal defense theories for BRH are on a totally different planet from his letter to CAl on Friday Sept 13th 1935? In this letter Rice becomes a first class eyewitness involving Gaston Bud Means and a Mr. Trop of 18 Boyleston Street in Boston MA? Questions:
1. Is James Roosevelt FDRs brother or another relative?
2. Who is Palmer Canfield who dies in March 1934?
3. Why is JEHoover so constantly interested in the LKC? Is Hoover involved in the Washington DC coverup?
4. Is the Imperial Hotel in Boston Mass?
We need to get one of our super-searchers to find Rice's original letter and the editorial supporting Hoffman in the December 17, 1935 issue of American Astrolgy.
Many doors start to open when you look at Means checkered past. He worked for the US Gov and Burns Detective agency in NYC, claimed to be a German Spy in WWI and knows Dr. JJ Nosovitsky? During his trial Means said that someone at the Morrow household in Englewood paid him to kidnap Charlie Jr. and also that the body on Mt Rose Hill was not Charles Augustus Lindbergh Jr? Since it is likely that he shot his ghost writer on the book about President Harding it wouldnt have been beyond GBMeans to shoot the baby on Mt Rose Road. If in fact there is an evil genius in the LKC--Means qualifies for certain.
Although most think CAL and Scwartzkopf are in charge of all the bungled leads from HQ at Highfields, Noel Bern puts forth one addtional Colonel--Colonel Wild Bill Donovan from Wash DC? Bern only quesses that Donovan, later to run for Governor of New York and run the fledgiling OSS in WWII, was actually present at Highfields on Saturday Feb 27 1932? Donovans #1 Asst. is Atty. Robert Thayer who answers the phone and puts forward the likes of mobster, con-man Mickey Rosner to search for Charlie? Later, Rosner takes the ransom note to NYC to show around to even more crooks like Madden, Bitz and Spitale. Is this any way to run a kidnap ransom case IF IN POINT OF FACT you actually want the kid returned "safe and sound"...I dont think so? No way in Hell? So either:
1. There is no kidnap, but only phishing for some kidnappers or extortionists in the Bronx using Patriot Condon?
OR
2. You dont want Charlie Jr. back but want him to get shot in the head?