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Post by rick on Feb 1, 2007 7:54:00 GMT -5
This is no ordinary signature but more symbollic of something distant? Usually a "signature" identifies a single individual but the ransom note symbol seems to symbolize something bigger? Why go to all this trouble anyway? What would a criminal profiler say about all this artwork? The Zodiac Killer had a simple logo: The cross-like symbol used by the Zodiac Killer.The Zodiac Killer was a serial killer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_KillerBut the LKC symbol is far more involved and complicated: it involves three colors...red blue and black? It involves 3 holes punched into the paper? It involves 2 little water like squggles? and two circles intertwined like a vesica pisces symbol? Vesica Pisces ... of ancient and modern times. (5/31/05) It is, for example, considered to be an integral part of the Ark of the Covenant , as described and shown figuratively by ka-gold's version of the Vesica Pisces www.halexandria.org/dward097.htm So, why go to all this trouble to collect the ransom? Why send over a dozen notes with this symbol on it? Does CAL recognize this symbol indicating who has snatched Charlie?
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Post by Rita Witt on Feb 1, 2007 16:20:37 GMT -5
Hi Rick Another mystery as to why the use of such a diffiicult to reproduce signature. If they wanted to identify a real kidnap victem simply say he has which tooth missing or even Jack and Jill would do? I suspect the signature had a specific message to where to communicate , as the short wave of that period used the eye tube as an on frequency detector. Lindbergh obviously knew that as a pilot and kept the law from this knowledge as he did with everything else.
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Post by rick62 on Feb 1, 2007 17:54:07 GMT -5
Good point rita/ you would have to work in a 5 and 10 to have all the right equipment for repro? And a hammer and punch? If I had to take a SWAQuess I would pick Dr. John Jacob Nosovitsky--Internationa Spy? If your radio waves holds true well then Curtis gang had Hilda and Inez as radio operators "ship to shore". I list the symbol-singnature as one of the keys to LKC: - occult; religious mysticism; artistic; spy school; cryptic....sounds like Alexis Carrel to me?
- complicated to the extreme--can only be reproduced at home in shop
- may have a womans touch--very precise
- may hold some hidden meaning to insiders--murder the baby?
- four (4) notes are lacking the symbol--odd?
- holes can be checked out against another mersman?
- paranoid, anal, fear of someone copying the ransom notes?
- nothing at all like any ransom note in history?
- the shear total number of ransom notes is ridiculous? (14?) most kidnaps suffice with only ONE!
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Post by Rita Witt on Feb 1, 2007 20:08:40 GMT -5
Hi Rick I know this particular short wave system, because my father had one. When he came back toThe U.S. they made him re-apply for short wave operator in English, and had all all country call letters and code for the test for study. The symbolism gave the cover needed to divert investigators into looking for a strange kidnapper, and CAL finished the cover by selecting Condon most likely through Breckenridge and Rosner. If someone had one of the old short wave sets the staion information might be able to be traced back maybee even to location with similar weather conditions.
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Post by rick62 on Feb 3, 2007 11:58:28 GMT -5
OK rita/ I see what you are driving at. You are interpreting the handwritten am L 3 holls as the ham band: www.lindberghkidnappinghoax.com/nurserynote.jpg(others translate this as "and 3 holes") This is good and does not work at cross purposes to my own notions about the blue circles w/ red center and 3 holed SYMBOL. I am working toward unlocking the SYMBOLISM of the vesica: unity of male and female yielding a child. The red could indicate the blood of Christ or the blood of Charlie Jr. which noone seems to find? Mary Magdalene is tied up in the symbol and we already have a Mary (Cerrita) at the Temple of Divine Power.
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Post by Rita Witt on Feb 3, 2007 15:27:39 GMT -5
Hi Rick It is still the reason they used the mystical symbolism. I have studued electronics in school and we used polar and rectangular coordinates to develop frequency components, and is why I recognized the strange sqigly lines as a possible frequency range in the am short wave band three am L3. It demonstrates how far they went to decieve the investigators, and could not have done by simple carpenters.
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Post by rick for rita on Feb 3, 2007 20:28:15 GMT -5
Henry Ford was tricked into funding Hitler and writing the International Jew in the 1920s by his secretary Ernest Liebold who was thought to be a German Spy. The idea was to keep America out of WWI?
The same thing may have happened in the 1930s with CAL only this time the German spys have Charlie Jr. Only the USA could prevent Nazi Germany from winning the second war and the Nazis wanted to get out in front of the US joining into the fray> CAL may have been tricked or blackmailed into supporting German interests? eg America First/
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Post by rick for rita on Feb 3, 2007 20:41:55 GMT -5
Four of the ransom notes were sans the singnature-symbol:
1. First note to Breckenbridge to give to CAL--7 march 2. Condon note to give to Lindbergh--8 March 3. Frankfurter stand on way to Woodlawn 12 March 4. Road Nelly note at St. Raymonds on 2 April
The first two represent letters to Breckenridge, go-between #x and Condon go-between #y? Apparently only CAL gets the official symbol?
Only CAL gets the Dear Sir letters--like an official business salutation? No real threats to Charlie Jr ever made?
The last two letters are directional? Go here and go there? Like they were written on the fly for someone like Condon?
Why do the B's in the Boad Nelly note look like they were R's at first? Some cook at the Cold Springs Farmhouse was named Nellie? Was only CAL supposed to recognize the SYMBOL?
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Post by Rita Witt on Feb 3, 2007 22:33:09 GMT -5
Hi Rick CAL being coerced into helping the Nazi's is a real possibility. I wondered about all the dead ends and it did seem that Lindbergh was searching for Charley discreetly into the 80,s . He came to Cleveland once in the 70's to meet a suburb mayor who still posts Charley reward pictures every March.
The kidnap was too complex, and could not have been carried out by even a small gang. They commissioned a ladder that couldn't be used, then had part of the ransom given to the fall guy Hauptmann. I think certain people were used, but they didn't understand what they had been asked to do led to a kidnap.
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