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Post by carol on Mar 25, 2006 19:29:06 GMT -5
It was Dudley Schoenfeld who psychoanalyzed Hauptmann without ever meeting him, and said he was gay. It's absolutely not true; in fact just the opposite probably was.
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Post by Rita Witt on Mar 26, 2006 0:17:12 GMT -5
Hi Anne, Carol I hope we will some day find the information to clear him, and is the reason for starting another forum. I don't like to see our belief's, and other's bullied by others. Some day a most unliky post might bring out a piece of information that turns the case around, and no ones posts should be ignored. There are many elderly people living yet, that may have some information (letters, photos,etc.) that may be intimidated if bullied, and that information will be lost.
It's amazing how the justice system makes mistakes on incarcerated people, as they made his diagnosis to lower his public opinion, so whatever they would doctor against him would be accepted.
Some years ago I was able to visit with Gerta Henkle in Florida, but was tired from the trip, thereby losing out viewing the family album after falling asleep holding a picture in my hand. Now I realize what I missed, and that her album might have held something on the case, but is probably now gone forever.
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Post by rick62 on Mar 26, 2006 13:18:51 GMT -5
Gerta Henkle is an important person in the later Trials. She is a key person in telling the Courts that Fisch and BRH dont meet until March of 1932. But can this be believed? Fisch of course, even in death, does not want to be linked to BRH after arrest because that would expose the entire German band in the Bronx. Were they Nazi agents? Whered they get all the money for trips home and to vacations and cars? Gertas husband Carl works for Knicerbocker Pie co. as a driver. But the company goes bankrutp but Fisch keeps taking peoples money for investment unbeknown to them its a scam including Gertas Mom who live nearto St. Raymonds and her house is listed on one map as such/
Gerta is at all the party photos/ she knows all the players and was interviewd by Wright and Dunniger for thier book.. Gerta claims Fisch attended the Temple of Divine Power but never BRH? She should have known that Fisch, her school chum, was conning everyone but never turned him in?
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Post by Rita Witt on Mar 27, 2006 2:54:12 GMT -5
I wish I could have viewed all her album photos, especialy since I think CAL may have been at least familiar with them. CAL snubbed Cerrita and Birretela for some unkown reason, then went for a sceance from Casey. CAL was good with the snub as he dated Elizabeth then snubbed her for a one week whirlwind with Anne. I read somewhere that Cal used to act crudely when visiting the Morrow's.
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Post by joy on Mar 31, 2006 12:30:35 GMT -5
Auh, Rita, your posts and thoughts are so good! I am so glad of what you think on Mr. Hauptmann and the VD'ers, being bullied, and discovering a new peice to the case, and everything! It is so great to be associated with you on this forum! Thank you!
Joy
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Post by Rita Witt on Apr 3, 2006 1:53:50 GMT -5
To Joy Thank you for joining joining the forum, and am glad that without the VD'rs we will be able to all add our inividual ideas together without their heckling. I believe that other forums have professional miss-information people that only claim to be researchers. They do not understand the meaning of research, as a research group builds on each persons contributions, and heckling is not part of that process.
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Post by joy on Apr 3, 2006 15:01:55 GMT -5
I feel sad that today is the day of Mr. Hauptmann's death several years ago (I appreciate the way you put it, Ana, as murder, because that is how I would say it. It is not just that he was killed, or executed, or electrocuted. None of those words are as correctly specific as murdered.) Of course he was a hero. I count him as one of my favorite historical heroes, and have pictures of him on my bulliten bourd. I am disgusted to think anyone would say he was anything other than a hero.
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Post by kathy for ana on Apr 11, 2006 16:59:04 GMT -5
I think that was bigotry because he was foreign. You are right, he taught himself English and was brave enough to come to a country alone without any money, just pennies. I dont think he lived an extravegant life either. comfortable because he and anna were careful with moneya nd worked hard.
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Post by anne50 on May 14, 2006 21:44:31 GMT -5
Has anyone seen the post that Sue left today on Ronelle's board about Hauptmann's being the real killer? I don't quite understand where Sue got this information, which is probably an excerpt from a man named "Pennington", but this "excerpt" states that the man in the cell next to Hauptmann wrote a letter to the State Police claiming that Hauptmann told him that Lindbergh had paid him, Hauptmann, to kidnap and kill the baby because he was retarded and that he, Lindbergh, wanted a healthy son. anne50
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Post by mairi on May 14, 2006 21:50:05 GMT -5
Thank you very much for your welcome and your Happy M's Day wishes. Have 3 wonderful reasons to enjoy the day and 1 precious "Grandreason". Good Wishes right back tae ye Lass!
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Post by Rita Witt on May 14, 2006 23:47:34 GMT -5
Happy Mother's Day to ALL, Thanks Mairi for posting here, and to all the meembers and guests for making the board enjoyable and free of VD'r. You can start a new topic thread on any of the subjects posted
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Post by Rita Witt on May 15, 2006 0:37:58 GMT -5
I think sue just tries to find interesting aticles that others might post on. It is interesting and can still have more than one meaning. The next jail cell story can mean he was paid to lie, or that he had a peronal grudge against Hauptman.
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Post by anne50 on May 16, 2006 6:43:40 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why Hauptmann was chosen to be the fall guy and not someone else? anne50
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Post by rick62 on May 16, 2006 9:29:06 GMT -5
Hi ana.....I keep thinking something like this.....the perps need a fall guy.....they know this is the most dangerous game they can play to steal CALJr? Its so dangerous to be "stupid"?
So they all start in 1931 finding The Patsy. he has to be someone close to the action, playing some minor role, but totally unsuspecting? The masterminds then begin fixing their own alibis as per Ellis Parkers formula of Crime.
Whats better than a carpenter, with chisels and a board from his own house. Amazingly clever. Copy his German borne handwriting. Duh, how hard is that when the Osborne twins are checking. Ask Howard Hughes?
Its a wonder we cant find list after list of "things to do" but since everyone "doesnt get caught even below the Radar" for 30 months the notes are gone/ gone / gone.
since Haptmann realizes he was part ways into something he cant spill the beans? His best friends dropped him off the roof.
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Post by elyssa on May 16, 2006 11:52:12 GMT -5
Has anyone seen the post that Sue left today on Ronelle's board about Hauptmann's being the real killer? I don't quite understand where Sue got this information, which is probably an excerpt from a man named "Pennington", but this "excerpt" states that the man in the cell next to Hauptmann wrote a letter to the State Police claiming that Hauptmann told him that Lindbergh had paid him, Hauptmann, to kidnap and kill the baby because he was retarded and that he, Lindbergh, wanted a healthy son. If this article or story sue found is true it would mean that Hauptman didn't act alone, there was inside help and Lindbergh would have been guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. This makes alot of sense and answers alot of the questions we've all been asking. It also explains why Lindbergh wanted Hauptman dead and why Hauptman made the remarks I read somewhere recently about Condon knowing the answers or something to that effect. Lindbergh didn't have to worry about Condon telling because the HERO named his 2nd son after him, and people already thought Condon was trying to get publicity.
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Post by Mouse on May 16, 2006 12:21:57 GMT -5
Has anyone seen the post that Sue left today on Ronelle's board about Hauptmann's being the real killer? I saw it, Elyssa, but didn't put a lot of stock in it. Third (or 4th, or 5th - ever play "Telegraph" in Girl Scouts?) party accounts are not always reliable. Plus, I would never trust the word of another criminal - he may have been trying to get attention, privileges or might have been using it to try to get a shorter sentence. If BRH didn't tell anyone else, why would he tell a stranger who had nothing to lose and everything to gain by ratting him out?
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Post by anne50 on Jul 23, 2006 7:40:59 GMT -5
Supposedly Hauptmann had affairs with other women during his marriage to Anna. I have even heard in the last few years that there is still concrete proof of this. Can anyone comment on this? anne50
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Post by Rita Witt on Mar 13, 2007 21:12:25 GMT -5
Hilda Braunlich spoke out in 1977 when Scadutto wrote his book noting that her research showed that the ransom notes had been forged in place or overwritten to prove the prosecutions points against Hauptmann. I did some research to that effect photographically which I list below. I also understand the translation principles used in tanslation and the psychology behind how people think behind translating from their language thinking. I noticed this same use of "boad" mistake police police and Wilentz used repeatedly earning them a three star dunce cap from the world of education. During my time in the University I studied German and used the digital programing style that has English speakers practice common words from English into German pronunciation using their dialect structure, and the word "boat" would be pronounced "boot" with a "D" ending sound. Thisclearly demonstrates that the ransom note writer was an Enlish thinking person trying to write in German sounding words. From Theon Wright's Book, In Search of the Lindbergh Baby pg. 159 "Theo Bernsen, a European writer covering the Hauptmann Case, told Anthony Scaduto he had discussed the matter of Hauptmann's writing with an expert on translating English and German writing attached to the German Embassy in London. He showed his enlarged photographs, presumably the kidnap notes, and was told these were not written by a German who had been taught English, but by a man who thinks in English and is trying to write Germanic." "The grammatical errors show it clearly, the attempt to make a Germanic construction by a man who thinks in English. He particularly stressed the word "boad" which Osborn and others claimed was German. In German it is written with a "t"--boot--and is not possible a German just learning English would make that mistake." www.network54.com/Forum/503283/message/1155183493/Nursery+Note+Secret+Writing-
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